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Sunday, January 24th 2010, 7:58pm
RE: Multi-Mode Total integration?
the only differences i can think of are keyboard zones and selectable midi channels. both we intentionally omit from Total Integration mode to keep things simple (not speaking of the fact that both can easily be done in your sequencer application). what's missing for you?We've been asking for years but it seems nothing happened...
is there any solution to manage the multi-mode from the VC plug-in and not to use the seq mode?
The multi-mode has always been a native feature of all Virus synth (talking about the hardware), so why can't we work within the multi-mode from the VC plug-in??? To me this is unacceptable from a so called "Total Integration" system...Sucks BIG time...that is one of the reasons why I haven't been using the VC plug-in for years...crossing my fingers to see the dream come true in OS4...And don't take me wrong, I love my Virus synths but it drives me crazy to see that something essential is underestimated.
virus control is not indented to be a multi mode editor.
marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus
Tuesday, January 26th 2010, 12:56am
darkvince,
the way i understand your reply is that you want to manage multi mode settings with your computer. that is an understandable request but no reason to say that total integration is unacceptable or sucks. virus control is not a multi mode editor and we have no plans to change that. it would make things much more complicated in many ways and the drawbacks wouldn't in our opinion be worth the benefits.
as for your quest of having more than 16 memory slots for embedded multi patches you need to understand that this is a memory restriction. the 118 "traditional" (referring) multi mode patches have been added later and do not eat up as much memory in the virus.
if you need more memory, dump the multi patches into the song using a sysex dump (an "arrangement dump" would do for instance). again, this all exists and support will happily help you to figure out how it works.
best, marc
the way i understand your reply is that you want to manage multi mode settings with your computer. that is an understandable request but no reason to say that total integration is unacceptable or sucks. virus control is not a multi mode editor and we have no plans to change that. it would make things much more complicated in many ways and the drawbacks wouldn't in our opinion be worth the benefits.
you can do all that already within the virus.
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I'd like to be able to manage all my multis at a glance, I need that really. Create a new multi from an existing one and dropping sounds from the multi to a single ram location. This is because sounds may have been edited within a multi, they are stored "modified" in the multi and they don't exist in the list of single ram slots.
as for your quest of having more than 16 memory slots for embedded multi patches you need to understand that this is a memory restriction. the 118 "traditional" (referring) multi mode patches have been added later and do not eat up as much memory in the virus.
if you need more memory, dump the multi patches into the song using a sysex dump (an "arrangement dump" would do for instance). again, this all exists and support will happily help you to figure out how it works.
best, marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus
Wednesday, January 27th 2010, 12:54am
Hello Marc,
Yes, I'd like to manage multi-mode from the VC plug-in. The reason why I said it's not acceptable is because ACCESS say it loud: "Total Integration". The fact is, it's a partial integration because the native multi mode management that exists on ACCESS synths for years has been set aside.
And the reason I said "it sucks" is because some users think it's a "must have" and you think it's not worth it...we spend hours programming our synths and our songs so I think we know what is a "must have" talking about efficiency and productivity.
Sad news...
"more complicated"? there's probably a technical reason behind the fact that you don't want to implement the multi-mode management but I don't think it is complicated to select a multi number and work with it from the VC control.
Talking about the benefits, it would have make a "full" Total Integration
but if you want to keep it "partial", what can I say?
Thanks a lot
MIDI dumping thru Sysex is what I used to do for the past 20 years...I was hoping for something more sophisticated and user friendly from the total integration concept.
Sad to read that I'm not heard. Let's hope OS4 will be worth it.
the way i understand your reply is that you want to manage multi mode settings with your computer. that is an understandable request but no reason to say that total integration is unacceptable or sucks.
Yes, I'd like to manage multi-mode from the VC plug-in. The reason why I said it's not acceptable is because ACCESS say it loud: "Total Integration". The fact is, it's a partial integration because the native multi mode management that exists on ACCESS synths for years has been set aside.
And the reason I said "it sucks" is because some users think it's a "must have" and you think it's not worth it...we spend hours programming our synths and our songs so I think we know what is a "must have" talking about efficiency and productivity.
virus control is not a multi mode editor and we have no plans to change that.
Sad news...
it would make things much more complicated in many ways and the drawbacks wouldn't in our opinion be worth the benefits.
"more complicated"? there's probably a technical reason behind the fact that you don't want to implement the multi-mode management but I don't think it is complicated to select a multi number and work with it from the VC control.
Talking about the benefits, it would have make a "full" Total Integration
but if you want to keep it "partial", what can I say?
if you need more memory, dump the multi patches into the song using a sysex dump (an "arrangement dump" would do for instance). again, this
all exists and support will happily help you to figure out how it works.
Thanks a lot
MIDI dumping thru Sysex is what I used to do for the past 20 years...I was hoping for something more sophisticated and user friendly from the total integration concept.Sad to read that I'm not heard. Let's hope OS4 will be worth it.
Wednesday, January 27th 2010, 4:20am
total integration is a concept to integrate a hardware synthesizer with a sequencer. it is much more than an editor, in fact the patch editor itself is just a part of the concept. it doesn't say or mean that you can edit everything with virus control. it would be a partial integration if we would make it look like you can edit every aspect of the virus ti. i don't think we do.Yes, I'd like to manage multi-mode from the VC plug-in. The reason why I said it's not acceptable is because ACCESS say it loud: "Total Integration". The fact is, it's a partial integration because the native multi mode management that exists on ACCESS synths for years has been set aside.
virus control switches the virus ti into a special mode which co-exists with the single mode and multi mode. but you cannot use all those modes in parallel, that's why you cannot edit a multi while virus control is running.
marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus
Thursday, January 28th 2010, 6:05pm
if so, VCC would be the place to implement it.So perhaps this functionality would exist in an extension of the VCC package?
marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus
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