Access Music User Forum

Okay, I am on my last straw with the Virus. I absolutely adore the Virus sound and really enjoy editing patches in Virus Control. However, Virus Control has some severe problems that prevent me and many other users from being able to use it as intended.

I have had a TI since 06, since OS 1 was supposed to be the solve all your problems release.I have continually read complaints about the integration part of the TI (which is, I assume, a big part of what we pay for). Just do a google search with the terms "Virus TI crackling," or "Virus TI integration problems," or "Virus TI sync issues" and you will be able to read through scores and perhaps hundreds of users having issues. Similarly, you can look at sonicstate.com on the synth site and compare the TI's ratings and comments to earlier Virus models.

I am not here flaming. As I said, I have been a user for almost 5 years. However, I have recently had some issues with no workarounds (other than using the Virus in standalone). My most recent issues have to do with audio crackling through VC. Access Music has confirmed this problem (which doesn't occur in stand alone) and basically said there's no solution at this time.

So, please, please, please make a patch editor version of Virus Control similar to reKon's editor for previous models of the Virus (found here: http://rekonaudio.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=40&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=29&vmcchk=1&Itemid=29).

I use this company's editor for the Waldorf Pulse and you know what, it's way more friendly than Virus Control. I'll tell you why, it doesn't try to handle sync and audio. Those things are handled by the synth itself. It runs as a vst using traditional midi to communicate with the synth.

I presume Access has VC handle sync so as to achieve "sample accurate playback." Well you know what, give me midi jitter!

Seriously, this has been requested since the inception of the TI series. Give us a patch editor version of VC!

Thanks for chiming in guys.

However, what I'm talking about is not a standalone editor. If you follow the link to the reKon site that I provided in my first post, you'll see that these products also run as vsts. I believe Moog just released something similar for the Little Phatty. Another example is midiquest, which can be found here:

http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuestXL/MidiQuest-About.html

The difference between these interfaces and Virus Control is that they use good old fashioned midi to communicate control changes. As far as I can tell, Virus Control does something different in syncing the Virus that causes more timing issues and audio glitching than it's worth.

I have confirmed with Jorg from Access Music that glitching is indeed present when using Virus Control in instances where it isn't in stand alone. Right now, my Virus is pretty much unusable through Virus Control due to audio glitches and small zipper like effects.

Please check out the links I have provided so that you can see what I'm talking about.

Thanks again!

So are you saying that the Virus has more than 128 parameters per midi channel? How do people use it without Virus Control then?

Ace17,

So I just had a poke around in the Virus C manual (which actually lists CC assignments) and it seems that you are right, the Virus has a parameter count that far exceeds 128. When I took a second look at reKon's Virus editor, I also noticed that Live isn't a supported host, likely due to its lack of sysex and limit of 128 CCs. I probably overlooked this fact with my Pulse because the Pulse only has 128 parameters.

Oh well.

But let me ask you a question then... Are you running Virus Control smoothly; i.e. no clicks, pos, zipper noises, sync issues etc.?