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Thursday, August 12th 2010, 1:24pm

Sysex bulks not sent correctly by a Virus TI

Anyone able to confirm?

Make a:

1.Multi instrument with 5 patches.
2.Set your MIDI channel to receive the third or fourth patch - so that you can play an instrument
3.Save your multi in one of the Virus TI's 14 memory slots
*..test your multi sound..*
4.Bulk dump the multi instrument to your medium of choice / to your sequencer
5.Send the bulk to Virus TI.
*A/B - test the MULTI - that was loaded (via bulkdump), and compare it to that, which was saved into your machine.*

I have noticed there being random drop outs, and because the Virus TI does not stay in tune when it is connected to a PC on any setup, I have decided to use my Virus TI as stand alone.

I would like to be able to store my patches aswell - and this too is looking like it is a flaw - not in the users setup - but in the Access Virus TI , Sysex handling - that is, at software level.

HUEY

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Thursday, August 12th 2010, 11:09pm

I tried the following:

I put the Ti in "sequencer mode" and use the "virus ti synth" driver from cubase 5.1 (so midi over USB)
I put some sounds on the different midi channels and perform a "Dump Arrangement" and record this in Cubase.
Aftter playing back these recorded sys ex info, the sounds does not load correctly into the right channels

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Saturday, August 14th 2010, 9:08pm

I tried the following:

I put the Ti in "sequencer mode" and use the "virus ti synth" driver from cubase 5.1 (so midi over USB)
I put some sounds on the different midi channels and perform a "Dump Arrangement" and record this in Cubase.
Aftter playing back these recorded sys ex info, the sounds does not load correctly into the right channels


Hello,

thank you so much for confirming.

It's so nice to have this forum, so that we as users can help eachother out, yet it is quite strange that Access themselves are not willing to take action on these things.

A serious approach from behalf of the developer is now expected..

Any devs here, able to confirm?

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 2:36pm

Any devs or mods willing to confirm?

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 4:45pm

i've just tried that and here the patches sound the same. in which way does the sound differ for you?

marc
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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 9:29pm

i've just tried that and here the patches sound the same. in which way does the sound differ for you?

marc


It's like there are parameters missing, and a bass sound will get transformed into a distorted lead.

(..also patch names might be missing..)

Single patches are transmitted mostly correctly, but when it comes to sending MULTI's or SEQ mode setups, the parts above part 1 are skewed..

Running a setup with PC.. edit: and on winXP just as HUEY above..

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 9:39pm

i've just tried that and here the patches sound the same. in which way does the sound differ for you?

marc


It's like there are parameters missing, and a bass sound will get transformed into a distorted lead.

(..also patch names might be missing..)

Single patches are transmitted mostly correctly, but when it comes to sending MULTI's or SEQ mode setups, the parts above part 1 are skewed..

Running a setup with PC.. edit: and on winXP just as HUEY above..


thanks. can you give me a step by step rundown which includes the exact type of dump you're sending? as for the patch names, you might be right. those are getting initialized in embedded multis once they loose the reference to the original patch. i must admit this is not ideal and i only found out today but it is something intentional and not a type of data corruption or omission from the dump.

are you using MIDI over USB or a conventional MIDI connection?

best, marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus

HUEY

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 10:34pm

What I tried:

1. Virus is connected via USB (Virus Ti Synth driver) so Midi via USB and put in seq mode
2. I load ram A1 on midi channel 1 and ram B1 on midi channel 2
3. I perform "STORE" ->"DUMP ARRANGEMENT" and record the sysex info in cubase (I got 7 lines of sysex info)
4. I changed the sounds on channel 1 and 2 to something else.
5. I play back the recorded sysex info and expect channel 1 to jumps back to ram A1 and channnel 2 to ram B1 -->No succes

When I do the same but only with the old fashion midi cables connected, Cubase records 17 lines of sysex info, but still loads not back the original sounds

Br

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "HUEY" (Aug 17th 2010, 10:41pm)


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Wednesday, August 18th 2010, 7:36am

May I suggest to use my Access Sysex-to-text converter?
Spotting a wrong parameter would be easier then.

http://www.virus.info/forum/index.php?pa…geNo=2#post8368

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Thursday, August 19th 2010, 1:38pm

i've just tried that and here the patches sound the same. in which way does the sound differ for you?

marc


It's like there are parameters missing, and a bass sound will get transformed into a distorted lead.

(..also patch names might be missing..)

Single patches are transmitted mostly correctly, but when it comes to sending MULTI's or SEQ mode setups, the parts above part 1 are skewed..

Running a setup with PC.. edit: and on winXP just as HUEY above..


thanks. can you give me a step by step rundown which includes the exact type of dump you're sending? as for the patch names, you might be right. those are getting initialized in embedded multis once they loose the reference to the original patch. i must admit this is not ideal and i only found out today but it is something intentional and not a type of data corruption or omission from the dump.

are you using MIDI over USB or a conventional MIDI connection?

best, marc


Hello,

Yes I will do that..

Actually what HUEY posted above, is just all the steps that I have done.

(..I am using Virus TI USB Midi for this - but I think I have checked this also on conventional Midi cabling..)

1. Put Virus TI into Multi mode.
2. Load different patches into memory, into all parts between 1-6
3. Check the patches that are on parts 1-4 (..send midi to midi channels 1-4 and quickly go throught them to check the sound..)
4. Save the Multi into a free slot (..1 - 14..)
5. Arm a channel in Cubase 5 etc. to receive sysex dump from Virus TI
6. Send Sysex -> "store multi" -> "Dump Arrangement"
7. After recording the Sysex, Change your Multi patch into an Initialized Multi
8. Send your sysex from Cubase to that Initialized channel
9. Test what is playing on channels 1-4, when you send Midi notes to Virus TI's parts 1-4.
10.Save your test Multi to a anotherfree slot (..1-14..).
11.Load the Multi that was saved on step 4, and check if the sounds on both multis are the same..

Personally I am not dealing much with this Sysex thing anymore, since my timing / driftage problems were almost totally fixed by changing a PCI slot of my soundcard, but I hope this will help to get this fixed so that others can send the Sysex incase there is a need for that..