Sunday, May 19th 2013, 5:34am UTC+2

You are not logged in.

  • Login

Dear visitor, you are currently not logged in. Login or Register as a new user .

1

Monday, May 17th 2010, 9:15pm

Access, please unleash the power of the TI - without the hassle!

I'm a long-time Access Virus user and fan - started out with the Virus C, and moved on to the TI when it was initially released. I hoped it would offer up an easy way of managing and modifying my patches, but after struggling with timing/delay compensation/latency/volume issues and needless fiddling with outputs, extra buttons that needed to be pressed etc, I gave up on the whole TI element and have just used it as a stand-alone unit ever since.

However, it’s been a few years since I looked at the fabled TI aspect of the synth, so I was curious to see if Access had gotten around to implementing a simple patch/bank management mode without the added TI-as-a-soundcard-and-midiinterface/USB quirks/issues/hassles mentioned above.

To be honest, I was really expecting this to have been sorted out by now, as it was a MUCH requested feature back then and offered a number of obvious advantages. But after reading through the forums, I’m frankly shocked and really saddened to see that this is *still* not the case!

Access, how about implementing a simple mode that allows us to save and manage our banks and patches via the very nice GUI, but which otherwise allows us to use the TI completely as in stand-alone mode (audio via the audio outputs, midi via the midi ports etc, just as in stand-alone mode).

IE no fancy audio via USB or anything, and subsequently without all the potential issues and frustrations that the whole USB aspect entails (I already have a sound card and a midi interface)!

Some of us just want to use and manage the awesome synth that is the TI without all the hassle - is that really too much to ask?

Thanks and best regards,
- Asbjoern

woodster77

Unregistered

2

Monday, May 17th 2010, 11:51pm

mine works a treat,you sure bud

3

Tuesday, May 18th 2010, 2:02am

it doesn't matter ,it's your option if you don't like to use other stuff so you can.....
virus ti can be use standalone just like C model...
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
---------------------------
Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram

cprovenzo

Beginner

Posts: 40

Location: Miami FL

  • Send private message

4

Tuesday, May 18th 2010, 1:45pm

I don't know what program you are using, but couldn't you hook the virus up via USB and standard Midi, and use a instrument track with TI Control to manage your presets, but use a standard midi track set to the proper port/ channel that feeds your virus for the recording..........I'm not sure if the virus can receive both usb and standard midi at the same time, but if it can, I would think this would be a possible work around.....

I agree with you though, a preference to use the standard mid ports and still use the browser would be a nice feature.......I would think it wouldn't be too hard to implement either.....

woodster77

Unregistered

5

Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 1:35am

savihost will turn your dll into an executable, ti standalone

Rex1229

Beginner

Posts: 11

Location: Tennessee, USA

  • Send private message

6

Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 2:09am

Savihost causes my computer to crash - not BSoD, the machine does a hard reset.

Also, running the VST causes the Virus Desktop to lose its MIDI input, so I can't play it and browse the patch libraries. So, yeah, a librarian version is definitely needed.

-Stephen

7

Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 11:09am

savehost works fine, with virus control.

marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus

TiUser

Trainee

Posts: 112

Location: Germany

  • Send private message

8

Wednesday, May 19th 2010, 6:31pm

If people are looking for an alternative free VST host try Topten Software's - Cantabile Lite - live players #1 free VST host IMHO... :thumbsup:
Simply go here:http://www.cantabilesoftware.com/lite/ download Cantabile Lite, install, enjoy and start playing!

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "TiUser" (Jun 26th 2010, 11:55am)


Rex1229

Beginner

Posts: 11

Location: Tennessee, USA

  • Send private message

9

Thursday, May 20th 2010, 4:28am

Scenario 1:
- Launch DAW - wait
- Open DAW's "Synth Rack"
- Load Virus Control - wait
- Unplug MIDI input cable from Virus (Desktop) and plug it into PC's MIDI Interface (because Virus' MIDI died when VC was launched)
- Select MIDI input for Virus in DAW
- Ready!
- Enjoy the lag

Scenario 2:
- Launch as-yet-unavailable Virus Librarian
- Ready! :D

-Stephen

10

Thursday, May 20th 2010, 10:08am

Thanks for the feedback!

@woodster77: Good to hear it's working out for you!

@stephen: Good point :)

@heckmat: I know I can use it in stand-alone mode as any other hardware synth - that's what I'm doing at the moment, and it does offer up quite a few advantages:

* No output latency issues
* No input latency issues
* No delay compensation affecting other synths
* No USB volume issues
* No loss of audio sync
* No having to change between audio outputs depending on whether you want to record or play back
* No crackling due to buffer issues
* No host compatibility issues
* When using the analogue outs: No sample rate concerns

(I'm not suggesting everyone using VC will be experiencing this - it's just a list of some of the issues I recall people having with VC when I was using it)

- however, by taking the stand-alone route I'm also missing out on the whole TI aspect and the benefits of a GUI for the TI within your host sequencer - such as:

* Total project recall - ie load a project in your host sequencer, and all sounds and settings are instantly recalled
* Onscreen parameter tweaking
* Easy GUI sound selection
* Easy patch and bank upgrades


Thanks @woodster77, @marc, @TiUser for the external VST host suggestions, but I still think there's a very real need for a sequencer-hosted version of VC with just the librarian features enabled - ie. a mode where the TI works just as in stand-alone, but without the whole audio-and-midi-via-USB-aspect (and potential problems/quirks outlined above) added to it.

- Asbjoern