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They are right, though. You are crazy.

Also the fact that the discrepancy can only really be detected on a spectral analyzer which itself could be inaccurate.

Thank god you arent trying to make music on real instruments, sending a stradivarius back to the late 1600s for being out of tune, complaining that you can't make music with it.

Seriously?

Does the same strange thing happen with the sine wave from the wavetable oscillator model?

The point is that the variation is insignificantly small - ie smaller than how close you would get a guitar or violin or flute or whatever in tune. The idea that it impedes the production of music is crazy - and yes other synths do go out of tune and I won't shoot fish in a barrel by mentioning analogues, if the battery gets low on my microKORG then the pitch will go off a little (not in absolute tuning, but you can get some funky variations going on, mostly when you set it up so the weedy little DSP starts to struggle).

Incidentally, I have perfect pitch, I don't need to be told by you whether or not I have a musical ear.

Stop pursuing this nonsense and enjoy your damn synth.

I would also suggest that people place a little more faith in waves plugins than maybe they should, but what should I know... I'm only doing a PhD in it...

I took a look at that video, too. I didn't actually see any instance of the 'problem' occuring in a practical situation - all I see is that if you hold a note then reset the ASIO driver you get some form of deviation on the spectroscope, specifically around the 'low shoulder' of the fundamental peak and a little on the 'high shoulder', too (the mean doesnt actually shift, by the way, which is why there is no audiable change in pitch).

Without much detail on how the waves plugin works it could either be down to a disturbance in a running mean, a non integer multiple issue, or even an issue to do with what cubase actually does when you tell it to reset the audio driver (ie something within cubase disturbing the timing).
At any rate, I'm not surprised there is a minor discontinuity when you tell it to reset the driver - in fact it's par for the course - and do you really sit there clicking it repeatedly when your working? and if you do... why?

Just the same, if i jiggle the batteries on my microKORG it crackles, and if i move the pitch bend on my Roland D-50 it doesn't spring back to precisely 0... The fact is that none of these observations represent practical issues, either because it is not part of normal operation (like jiggling batteries or hammering a driver reset button), or that the actual deviation from expectation is so small it is insignificant (like the pitch bend wheel, and if i flick it it goes back to true zero anyway).

Identifying the cause of this deviation may be of interest to a realtime systems analyist, but as a musician I find it very boring.

Quoted from "AtonyB"

... if i move the pitch bend on my Roland D-50 it doesn't spring back to precisely 0...

Maybe OT but I have the same issue with the bender of my PCR controller and it's annoying even without a perfect ear... I guess Roland type pitch benders are just mechanical crap... always wanted a Korg-type joystick instead... 'til then I'll try to give it a second bump to make it jump back to zero...