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AtonyB

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Sunday, August 15th 2010, 12:54pm

I begin (though I already had a pretty clear idea) to see why access support had difficulty helping him...

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 2:59pm

Mods?

Any visions on how to fix this?

Since, Sysex dumping does not work in Virus TI correctly, and the midi timing of analogue outs (..that do stay in tune..), is hindered.. ..it is allmost impossible to use the Virus Ti in stand alone mode either.

The timing of the Analogue outputs, also, when Virus TI is connected via usb, is messed up (..but not, when there is midi sent to them via Virus TI midi out..), so that using the analog outputs as a workaround to the pitch drifting bug is also bottlenecked..

Would there possibly exist a fix for the timing of the analogue outs?

Marc and others (@Access), I am sorry for the angry tone in my voice, but I am simply not satisfied with a setup that does not either produce harmonies, or is not playing basslines accurately to the beat (or which sounds cannot be saved via a normal Sysex dump).

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 4:58pm

Are you working in a live setup Lightsound?

If not then surely you can either use PDC or simply record the output from the virus and nudge the audio file into time - In standalone mode it should not be any different to any other hardware for recording (in the days of OS1 thats how i used it!).

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Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 9:08pm

Are you working in a live setup Lightsound?

If not then surely you can either use PDC or simply record the output from the virus and nudge the audio file into time - In standalone mode it should not be any different to any other hardware for recording (in the days of OS1 thats how i used it!).


Yeah, the setup is not going to be a live one, for some while..

Thanks for the idea, but the analogue outs Midi timing is messed in a way where the midi timing has a random shifting..

ie. a looped segment starts to play perfectly in sync..

..and in the end of the loop, all the notes are played out of sync.

So, I'm dealing with a "variation" in the delay so to speak.

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Wednesday, August 18th 2010, 12:53pm

Are you running it with live mode enabled?

That will produce such behaviour - live mode is for just that and will give a shortened, but variable delay.

Live mode switched off will give a longer, but fixed, delay...

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Thursday, August 19th 2010, 12:57pm

Are you running it with live mode enabled?

That will produce such behaviour - live mode is for just that and will give a shortened, but variable delay.

Live mode switched off will give a longer, but fixed, delay...


Yeah,

Nope I did not run my Virus in live mode.

I actually stumbled upon something that will explain a bit why people are having so drastically different experiences regarding the pitch shifting, and it also solved the timing problems (of the analogue outputs) of the Virus TI.

I simply changed the PCI slot of my soundcard.

The drifting of the pitch is also allmost unnoticeable now (..but there is a little allmost unhearable amount of the drifting which yes sounds abit like phase shifting..), but I'll stick with the analogue outputs because they seem to be more reliable.

So I can see why people had so different opinions, and I must admit that I took it a bit granted that everyone would have just as noticeable drifting, as some people did on their setups.

What is interesting though, is that the Sysex problem was not fixed, but all other midi related probs are gone with this changing of the PCI slot..

Thanks for all da help to everyone.

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Thursday, August 19th 2010, 2:16pm

Thank god you actually followed some other people's advice

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Friday, August 20th 2010, 7:20am

That's a relief. Could be an opportunity to pass on useful intel to, and make friends again with, the retailer and Access too. Long may your pitch remain true, Lightsound :)

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Friday, August 20th 2010, 11:23pm

Thank god you actually followed some other people's advice


No need for such vitriols...

Yes - PCI is not the greatest interface there is for a hard time spec.

It may just be me, but the virus always seems a bit smoother when it is plugged in my PCI-E USB card (also dedicated to the virus, too, as the bus is full on my motherboards USB controller).

@Lightsound: What sound card are you using?

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Saturday, August 21st 2010, 9:31am

For me using another PCI slot doesn't make any difference :( However, i'll build myself a complete new system once the new 32nm AMDs are available at a reasonable price, and i guess i'll also buy a new soundcard (though finding a "simple", Windows 7 x64 compatible internal one with optical digital input that supports 32kHz+ seems to be a pretty much impossible task :/), maybe a nice side effect will be that it fixes that problem, we'll see.