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Wednesday, January 20th 2010, 5:43am

This sounds like the same problem i've been having, it is detailed in my thread here: http://www.access-music.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=713

I have updated the thread with new information since Marc replied to it initially, but have not received any more information since then. (it did take me a while to update it tho, as i had to find the time to perform the changes Marc suggested)

Basically reducing the soundcard latency setting as Timo suggests above does not fix the problem, i set my motu 828 down to it's lowest buffer setting and the latency problem remained.

If i start a blank project with only one virus part the latency is gone, no problem. As i described in my thread the latency issues only appear once several parts/outputs are used, very much like the poster of this thread describes.

Once the latency appears, recording new midi data in the project through the VC plugin is basically impossible because of the delay in hearing the sound once a key is pressed. All my midi data appears ahead of time on the grid by almost a 1/16th note, because i'm compensating for the delay by playing the keys earlier so as to hear the sound in time with the rest of the instruments during recording.

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Wednesday, January 20th 2010, 9:46am

This sounds like the same problem i've been having, it is detailed in my thread here: http://www.access-music.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=713

I have updated the thread with new information since Marc replied to it initially, but have not received any more information since then. (it did take me a while to update it tho, as i had to find the time to perform the changes Marc suggested)

Basically reducing the soundcard latency setting as Timo suggests above does not fix the problem, i set my motu 828 down to it's lowest buffer setting and the latency problem remained.

If i start a blank project with only one virus part the latency is gone, no problem. As i described in my thread the latency issues only appear once several parts/outputs are used, very much like the poster of this thread describes.

Once the latency appears, recording new midi data in the project through the VC plugin is basically impossible because of the delay in hearing the sound once a key is pressed. All my midi data appears ahead of time on the grid by almost a 1/16th note, because i'm compensating for the delay by playing the keys earlier so as to hear the sound in time with the rest of the instruments during recording.


What host are you using?

-timo

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Thursday, January 21st 2010, 11:36am

Cubase 5, as i mentioned all my details are in my thread.. "it is detailed in my thread here: http://www.access-music.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=713"

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Thursday, January 21st 2010, 12:58pm

Hey Feelda, you mentioned in your first post that you prefer to use vst effects. I was wondering if you have figured a way to use vst effects on individual parts when using the virus control. For instance, I would like to sidechain a pad on part 1/channel 1 of the virus but not the bass on part 2/channel 2. I can only place the compressor on the main virus control plug-in and it applies the effect to both parts/channels. Any suggestions?

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 1:07am

Hey Feelda, you mentioned in your first post that you prefer to use vst effects. I was wondering if you have figured a way to use vst effects on individual parts when using the virus control. For instance, I would like to sidechain a pad on part 1/channel 1 of the virus but not the bass on part 2/channel 2. I can only place the compressor on the main virus control plug-in and it applies the effect to both parts/channels. Any suggestions?



I've never tried this but I believe there is a way to do this... This would apply for ableton live: insert new audio channel and route audio from the particular VC part you wanna use the effect for. (eg: AUDIO FROM: VIRUS TI SYNTH CH1)... I know this works for some VST synths that have a multichannel capability but to be honest I do not know if that works for virus control as well... It depends how the virus TI handles audio... Maybe you want to mess around with the output settings in VC and see if you can set up multiple audio out channels for certain midi channels and then route the audio from these to your different VST effects. I'm at work as I'm typing this so I can not try it out but you check it out and see if that works... I will so do as well if I don't forget :-)

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 9:55am

Virus TI negative latency

Hi all,

I just bought a new desktop TI to sit along my Virus Indigo and a bunch of softwynths I'm using within Logic Studio on a 8core mac pro boosting 12GB of ram and a Motu 828 mk III.

The problem is I can't figure out latency problems with the TI, I tested my setup playing a part on the TI routing it to out 1L+R (physical NOT usb) and recording the track again on an audio track. It seems that the virus is about 1/32 to soon.

Also when I just play the virus through usb outs I can't figure out the timing issues, but I hear that it is in no way in sync with the rest of the project, recording any other hardware synth is not an issue so there is no noticeable latency with my Motu soundcard.

Is there a way to figure this out, and can anybody help me with this?

grtz

pieter

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 12:50pm

Hey Feelda, thanks for your reply. That sounds like it should work, I am not going to be able to try it probally until next weekend, but I will try this right away. This would a great help because we can only open one instance of Virus Control. I love the virus onboard effects but I really need to use the compressor. Thanks a bunch, I will see if this works as soon as possible. All the best

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 5:02pm

RE: Virus TI negative latency

Hi all,

I just bought a new desktop TI to sit along my Virus Indigo and a bunch of softwynths I'm using within Logic Studio on a 8core mac pro boosting 12GB of ram and a Motu 828 mk III.

The problem is I can't figure out latency problems with the TI, I tested my setup playing a part on the TI routing it to out 1L+R (physical NOT usb) and recording the track again on an audio track. It seems that the virus is about 1/32 to soon.

Also when I just play the virus through usb outs I can't figure out the timing issues, but I hear that it is in no way in sync with the rest of the project, recording any other hardware synth is not an issue so there is no noticeable latency with my Motu soundcard.

Is there a way to figure this out, and can anybody help me with this?

grtz

pieter



Hi,

i have the same computer and i have the same issue with my TI2 desktop on Ableton Live and a RME soundcard.

do you think the virus TI tempo was not regular when you use USB out ? I have this feeling and it's very difficult to work with this problem.

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 5:34pm


when you play back the tutorial song, are the metronome and the virus tracks in sync?

marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus

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Monday, January 25th 2010, 5:58pm

Hi marc,

i have already try to records a channel of the tutorial song on a new audio track.

and if i records Several times the same channel, the records sound was never records at the same place exactly.

DPC latency exist on OSX ? and if yes how to check this ?