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Incidentally, I do record my virus one part at a time for projects - but I do use the onboard FX (Duh! why would you rob yourself of the TIs fantastic FX section??) and, like I said before, most parts consist of more than a couple of notes, so some polyphony is appreciated, so I would be upset if Access came along and said hey we've quartered the polyphony on the virus just to satisfy a couple of nutters... can you imagine??

And while we're at it.

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It's about having enough bandwidth to keep the stuff just above your hearing limit from being reflected back down well into your hearing range... and not having to interfere with your audible range with the necessary filtering to prevent it. It's also about avoiding phase distortion. The further away your fitlers are, the less chance of phase distortion.

That is what guard bands are for - 48 kHz gives you a more than generous guard band.

Right.. so then you'll have no problem explaining how this happens then? You seem to have selectively skipped over this in your reply quotes:

Virus vs Sylenth aliasing.

Is that the perfect design you speak of at work with the more than generous guard band?

What I said isn't arrogant at all to assume. It's true. The majority of professionals (clarify- well regarded artists commercially releasing music of high sounding quality) aren't using the Virus for more than one or two sounds (not notes, different patches) in a track.
This is a reality, not an assumption. You say "some polyphony is appreciated".. well the TI (especially the TI2) is equipped with a LOT of polyphony and if you halved that you'd still have plenty to work with especially since you commonly don't have a huge mess of sounds all playing at once.

I won't go into the mau5's opinion of the virus' fx but again it comes down to an issue of quality vs the latest vst offerings. There are obviously plenty of delay & reverb plugins that are far better in their sound & flexibility.

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I would be upset if Access came along and said hey we've quartered the polyphony on the virus just to satisfy a couple of nutters... can you imagine??

Can I imagine Access removing all other clock rates in order to add one additional rate in the options of 88khz? Uh... no.. and the fact you would even mention that as if that's what anyone was ever asking (or would be necessary in order to add functionality) really paints a clear picture of your logic & contribution to this topic.

If you read above:

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NMS i don't think you get the difference between aliasing due to oscillator design - which remains in the virus due to backwards compatibility (I guess they want peoples' old presets to keep sounding the same) and aliasing as a function of sample rate - the two are independant. They also fixed/improved it using the wavetable oscillators if you even care.

That oscillator design has been around for some time (not sure if it goes ALL the way back) - and they have superceded it.

Also, if you are using the virus for traditional mainstream sounds, you will get oodles of polyphony out of it (maybe, it really depends on what you are using it for which makes discussions about how much polyphony is 'enough' moot) - but if you are using it to get true VA sounds you need the polyphony because of how much is left at the end of all the effects. By the time you are emulating 3 minimoogs, two polymoogs and an ARP Odyssey you really have to think about how many notes you are going to get out of it.

For example, when we did this: http://youtu.be/gdjECAvwJFk?hd=1 - every sound beside vocals, bass guitar and drums (obv) is coming from the Virus. None of the presets, besides the claptrap, are lightweight and I've had to do a lot of fine tuning to get enough polyphony out of just one Virus for that. I'm working on a TI and the extra power from a TI 2 wouldn't go amiss, but I don't have £2000 to chuck around right now.

Lets set aside the complete rewrite and jigging around of memory, etc. programming a higher sample rate might entail, the reduction in polyphony, even on a TI 2 would make this impossible.

The best you could hope for is that they find a way of doing SRC right on the end of the signal chain to get you your exotic sample rate - but then if that's what they do, you can do that yourself - especially if you are recording it part by part with no FX - I'm assuming your wave file editor has a simple enough sample rate conversion...

OR - you could just work at 96 kHz... just a thought...

88.2khz is an exotic sample rate? lol.. alright that's my cue.. I'm out. You can hang out and post in this topic but it's relating to something beyond your needs or understanding. You seem to have too much time on your hands but you could attempt to do other people the courtesy of instead involving yourself in discussions relating to things that DO tie into your needs and understanding.

I'm not going to bother bringing up sample rates again in this forum. The people who are concerned with that are generally not sitting around on the Virus forum killing time. .

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Can I imagine Access removing all other clock rates in order to add one additional rate in the options of 88khz? Uh... no.

No, but you have to admit it might raise some new issues. Like having different max delay times depending on the current sample rate (which is currently not the case). Nothing impossible, at first sight.

Anyway, do you have an idea of why Access didn't already make these sampling rates available?

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Can I imagine Access removing all other clock rates in order to add one additional rate in the options of 88khz? Uh... no.

No, but you have to admit it might raise some new issues. Like having different max delay times depending on the current sample rate (which is currently not the case). Nothing impossible, at first sight.

Anyway, do you have an idea of why Access didn't already make these sampling rates available?

ok u can ask the same question tape in 1000 BC why Microsoft did no bring Windows 7 already?
get it?!
p.s. if something is still not implemented already it does not meen that it is not a good feature....

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p.s. ok, please leave this thread now!!!

Seriously dude, what's wrong with you?