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Tuesday, April 10th 2012, 1:08am

Optiv and BTK-how do YOU make similar reeces to these (prior resampling) ?? DNB

heres the taster for possibly dnb LP of the year with the sounds (bass/mids) im liking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NC03Vm-REw



basically i get the idea of resampling, what im struggling with is creating initial "thick" patches to filter the bejezus out of.



if i start with detuned hypersaws etc and add distortion and effect i find the sound is a bit "thin"



So im basically after any tips on how you go about doing this?



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Tuesday, April 10th 2012, 9:49am

It's not the waveform before the filter, it's the distortion after the filter. But still, the best waveforms for filtering are usually the richest ones, which are sawtooth and pulse (square) with PW not at 50%. Detuned sounds such as hypersaw temporarily cancel out frequencies, it might not sound right if the exact frequency you are trying to filter out is not stable.

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Tuesday, April 10th 2012, 11:38pm

good point



is it possible to route one filter to the distortion while the other by passes it? So i can have a cleaner bass layer (low pass) and distort only the tops (high pass)? Seems when all runs through the distortion it loses weight?

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Wednesday, April 11th 2012, 8:02am

Yes, the filter section has a split mode where one filter goes through the saturation unit and the other doesn't. Just make sure your oscillator stays in saturation the whole while or else the saturation distortion will not kick in. But before you try this, just try a few filter resonance levels, it could be that this was what you were missing.

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Wednesday, April 11th 2012, 10:47pm

sounds good. the signal route is something i need to learn more about i think, especially where and how the two saturation parts work. Any tips would be handy.

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 10:35am

There is only one saturation module, but yes, read the manual, and there is also this nice tutorial .

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Sunday, August 5th 2012, 3:28pm

im also trying to create fat reece basses, i got an external filter and add fx like saturation / distortion, reverb etc after the filter ofc. so i use the virus only for creating moving saws and use more high-end plugins on the insert.

one really good plugin for multiband saturation/distortion is Fabfilter Saturn, you can even automate the crossover frequency of the bands :thumbsup:

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Monday, August 6th 2012, 12:00am

im the same, usually make a reece on the virus and throw it through the emu filters. I havent tried the new virus filters yet as i dont think the beta release seem stable.



For some reason putting a reece from teh virus into the emu makes it fat, but putting the emu output back into the virus input makes it sound thin?

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Monday, August 6th 2012, 2:09pm

why put the emu back into the virus and not into the daw? i run my virus directly into my ebbe&flut filter then into the daw where i process it with saturation reverb chorus etc. then resample. i dont know the emu filters (zplane :) but maybe its to much convertion OR you got bad eq settings in the virus..?!
havnt tried the new filters also, but i will do now. i use the 3 filter envelopes for modulating the sound only, lp filter is open and filter balance str8 left

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Monday, August 6th 2012, 11:32pm

i tried to go from the emu into the virus to see how the sound would be affected. I usually go emu-Mixer-Daw.



Let us know what you think of the new filters



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