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Wednesday, October 26th 2011, 10:38am

Ableton Live Midi Setup + Out of Sync / Clicks & Pops Problems

Hi,
I love my Virus TI2, but I'm having problems from the day it arrived at home, so now I decided to ask for some help.

I have a MacBook Pro 13" 2010.

First - MIDI SETUP IN ABLETON LIVE:

I know, there is a Setup Guide for Sequencers, but there isn't a section where I can see how to setup the midi preferences in Live 8.

There are 3 buttons for Input and 3 Buttons for Output, these buttons are Track - Sync - Remote.
In my Setup I just have the "Track" ON for Input and Output, is that correct or I need to set it up in a different way?
There are things to adjust in the Midi Clock Sync Delay / Midi Clock Type / Port Type configuration area?

This is an example image of the Midi Setup in Live (just downloaded from Google Images):




Second - OUT OF SYNC / CLICK & POPS:

My soundcard is a Presonus Firestudio Mobile (just bought), in Ableton Live I have a 256 Buffer Size, my Virus TI2 is connected through USB to a power-packed HUB (I know, it's not recommended but It's my only choice) that's shared with just an External Hard Drive and I use the Virus TI Software as an Audio Unit on Mac OSX - I updated the software to the latest version.

Using the "Live" button in the Software doesn't change anything, rather sometimes it's worse.
I tried other Soundcards and I have same problems.
My CPU Meter isn't high (I always reach 60 / 70% max)

Thing is, I just want to know, is that possible that's because I'm using USB with a HUB, or just because using it with USB causes these problems?
Is that possible that if I use MIDI cables and Audio Outputs instead of the USB cable I solve all these problems?


I just want a stable setup.. :(
I hope you can help me with that,
thanks.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "needaname" (Oct 26th 2011, 2:22pm)


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Wednesday, October 26th 2011, 10:46am

you probably have an USB related problem. please contact support.
best, marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus

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Wednesday, October 26th 2011, 12:05pm

you probably have an USB related problem. please contact support.
best, marc
Ok Marc, I'll try something else today and if anything happens I'll contact the support.

What about the first question? How do I need to setup Midi in Live?
Thanks.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "needaname" (Oct 26th 2011, 2:22pm)


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Thursday, October 27th 2011, 9:51am

Guys any help about the first part of my topic?
No one knows how to setup MIDI correctly in Ableton Live 8?

Even because there is "Virus TI MIDI" and "Virus TI Synth", it's kinda hard to figure out how to set it up.


Thanks.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "needaname" (Oct 27th 2011, 9:56am)


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Thursday, October 27th 2011, 11:00am

the ableton live tutorial song might be of help to you. also, please read the tutorials (setup tutorial, ableton live tutorial). it's all in there.
hth, marc
The official Virus TI facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/accessvirus

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Thursday, October 27th 2011, 11:15am

Marc, I appreciate your help, but as I said in my first post:

Quoted

I know, there is a Setup Guide for Sequencers, but there isn't a section where I can see how to setup the midi preferences in Live 8.

The Ableton Live setup guide is for Live 5, now Live is at version 8, and there is a Midi Setup where you can choose to activate or not MIDI Track / Sync / Remote both for "Virus TI MIDI" and "Virus TI Synth", I already read the manuals, and I can't find something useful about that.

I'm just asking if someone in this forum knows the right way to set it up without having any problem.

BTW I'll try to ask it on the Ableton forum too.

Thanks

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Thursday, October 27th 2011, 6:29pm

General setup hints

Are you planning to use the VST driver? In this case there is no need to prepare a MIDI configuration for it, as the VST engine handles all the routing from the appropriate track(s).



If not, then you should detach the USB plug and let the Virus work as standalone with input from your soundcard MIDI out, and configure the MIDI out for your soundcard.



The other thing is that a hard drive is a bad neighbour, when placed on the same hub as you are... It has huge bursts of information enough to put sticks in the wheels of any other demanding/real-time device.



A good differential diagnosis would be to connect monitors to the audio outs, direct the current patch to go through them, play the the patch from Ableton and listen for any crackle and pops.



Good luck.

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Friday, October 28th 2011, 12:36am

RE: General setup hints

Are you planning to use the VST driver? In this case there is no need to prepare a MIDI configuration for it, as the VST engine handles all the routing from the appropriate track(s).



If not, then you should detach the USB plug and let the Virus work as standalone with input from your soundcard MIDI out, and configure the MIDI out for your soundcard.



The other thing is that a hard drive is a bad neighbour, when placed on the same hub as you are... It has huge bursts of information enough to put sticks in the wheels of any other demanding/real-time device.



A good differential diagnosis would be to connect monitors to the audio outs, direct the current patch to go through them, play the the patch from Ableton and listen for any crackle and pops.



Good luck.
You totally helped me!
I disabled all the MIDI settings in Live, and I connected the Virus directly on my Mac, switching the Hub with the HD on another Hub, now everything seems to be nice!

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Friday, October 28th 2011, 1:53am

RE: RE: General setup hints

You totally helped me!
I'm glad to hear that! BTW, what happened to those two patches you shared in the "Sound design" thread? They are not accessible from the provided links :-(

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Friday, October 28th 2011, 10:59am

Those are still available here: http://www.thecolorspace.net/site/?page_id=157


Sorry for the OT.