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Monday, September 26th 2011, 12:05pm

Alternatives to the TI ??

Hey!

I am starting to look for alternatives for the Ti to sell it then later. Does anyone know good alternatives? I don´t need Plugin stuff, I need a good compact multimode machine with inputs, effects, a good modulation matrix. I can work with oldschool midi, usb is nice but not absolutely neccesary.

(The reaseon why I come to this pont is that I use the Virus since the "A" and the sound is brilliant but the TI doesn´t work properly. They say it does but most people who had contact to it know it better. Dropouts, Clicks, Sync action, we all know this since years. I am fed up.)

What do you think? And what would be your alternative favs?

Manu

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Monday, September 26th 2011, 12:34pm

Is the mighty Andromeda any good to you?

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Monday, September 26th 2011, 7:10pm

Hmm, well seems to big. I also found the Origin interesting but heard the sound demos and... nothing new for a lot of money.

nms

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Tuesday, September 27th 2011, 1:27am

It sounds like what you need is exactly a Virus, so why don't you get whatever bugs in your system worked out so you can use it. I don't ever have problems with dropouts and clicks or sync action (though I don't use my onboard arp so can't speak about sync action there). I have never once experienced the problem you mentioned about volume changes.. it's not normal behaviour so there must be something wrong which is likely user error or the way something is set. There is an option in the config menu to disable midi volume changes in case something there is causing problems.
What computer do you use? OS? DAW? I don't suppose you use an add on pci usb card? What Virus OS are you running? Are you using the Virus as your audio interface?
I use an i7 920 overclocked to 3.8ghz running windows 7x64, Live 8, no add on usb card, Virus OS 4.1.1.05, and I don't use the virus as my audio interface. Runs smoothly.

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Tuesday, September 27th 2011, 1:49am

Keep your virus... sell your computer! ;( most problems are not with the Virus at all!... what a waste... you will regret it!

Ace17

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Tuesday, September 27th 2011, 7:13am

I don't understand your choice. Why not keep the Virus and use it in stand alone mode?
Most of the issue the users are facing here are related to the Virus Control plugin, not the synth. So if you use good old MIDI (over USB or not) you will be fine.

Ionis

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Friday, September 30th 2011, 6:12pm

Good point Ace. Even if you take out the fact that the TI uses TI, the Virus TI is still, in my opinion, the best synth on the market. You guys know it's power. Before you sell your Virus, consider these points.

The Virus TI...
...has one of the most complex and powerful mod matrixes of any synth.
...has powerful Hypersaws and Wavetables.
...is a truly polyphonic and multi-timbral synth.
...has the most options and powerful effects section of any synth.
...has amazing mutlimode dual filters with analog emulation.
...can create almost any analog and virtual analog sound, including emulating classic synths.

So let me break this down for you. If you sell your Virus, and you want something equal or more powerful...get ready to dish out the cash, and I mean A LOT OF CASH. You will need as many synths as parts you want. You will need a separate high powered rack mount Lexicon style reverb for EVERY part. You will need a total stompbox pedal rig for EVERY synth. Which includes a chourus, delay, phaser. Ring modulator, EQ pedal, distortion pedals (you will need a few here per pedalboard) and an overdrive.

This of course could cost you 10s of thousands. So my suggestion, friend, is that we try to help you figure out what is wrong with your computer to Virus communication. I have had issues and so has most other users. It is the SMALL price we pay for FREE UPGRADES. Think about this, please, before you make a choice that you might regret.
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Ionis

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Saturday, October 1st 2011, 3:31am

RE: Alternatives to the TI ??

Hey!

I am starting to look for alternatives for the Ti to sell it then later. Does anyone know good alternatives? I don´t need Plugin stuff, I need a good compact multimode machine with inputs, effects, a good modulation matrix. I can work with oldschool midi, usb is nice but not absolutely neccesary.

(The reaseon why I come to this pont is that I use the Virus since the "A" and the sound is brilliant but the TI doesn´t work properly. They say it does but most people who had contact to it know it better. Dropouts, Clicks, Sync action, we all know this since years. I am fed up.)

What do you think? And what would be your alternative favs?

Manu
Do you absolutely need a hardware synth to replace the Virus? Although the engines are quite different, Omnisphere is just as cool as the Virus in its own way - the modulation options, effects, etc. are as powerful and good-sounding as anything in the Virus.

Sure, there are a lot of things that the Virus does better, but Omnisphere has A LOT going for it as well (and not just the 7,000+ killer patches that come with it). Most people would be surprised to learn what a versatile synth Omnisphere is.

You do need a pretty powerful computer to run several Omnisphere parts. That's where the Virus is great because it doesn't place any serious demands on your computer.

Anyway, it's something to think about. :-)

nms

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Saturday, October 1st 2011, 3:52am

Woah let's not get carried away here lol. Almost sounds like you've never owned a moog or one of the key vintage analogs!
...can create almost any analog and virtual analog sound,

Ionis

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Saturday, October 1st 2011, 6:07am

Woah let's not get carried away here lol. Almost sounds like you've never owned a moog or one of the key vintage analogs!
...can create almost any analog and virtual analog sound,


Bro, people that talk crap on a Virus for not being able to make pure analog tones are in my opinion the same people that might forget that when I rock a sold out party nobody in the audience cares because it is all about setting well in the mix. And yes you can make some amazing sounding analog sounds. Just use vintage 2 as your analog boost in your patch. As a matter of fact add that sub oscillator and ring modulator with the analog 4 pole filter and record it beside a moog. I have played plenty of Moogs, and they are badass. My point was that the if you only have 3000 dollars and you go buy a REAL synth and that synth is not a Virus TI, it will feel like the girl that got away. Omnisphere is a very good synth, but I feel like people buy software synths because they don't have the willpower to save up enough money to buy hardware and they talk up how sick it is to feel better about it. I use softsynths too, but they rarely cut it for me in terms of "the complete package".
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