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Ace17

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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 12:32pm

@SOS: I upgraded my computer to a faster one.
- I still clearly hear the crackling on the test project you sent me
- I can't hear any crackle using the patch "Chapel MS" (which is a very nice patch BTW). I tried playing 5-6 notes chords, from my MIDI keyboard, from a sequencer ; I tried to play/stop the sequencer... I can't have crackling at all. I'm using Ableton Live, VC of course, with the USB audio outputs.

I think it's an interesting difference, because "Chapel MS" is a lot more complicated patch than "GENTLE" (the one in the test project you sent me).
In fact, if I take your sample project, and I replace your "GENTLE" patch by "Chapel MS", I don't hear any crackling! 8|
What a pity I did not test "Chapel MS" on my previous computer!

edit: clarity :D

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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 1:38pm

from what we can see, the crackling is caused by a very specific combination of parameters within both patches (eventually among others). the computer/USB/VC configuration has nothing to do with it.
best, marc
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Ace17

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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 2:47pm

Thanks for the information, it's very interesting!
You seem to mean it's only by luck if not using Virus Control makes a difference. Am I right about this?

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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 3:03pm

Thanks for the information, it's very interesting!
You seem to mean it's only by luck if not using Virus Control makes a difference. Am I right about this?

let's put it like that: the patches in question do crackle when i use the virus stand alone. do you have different findings?
marc
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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 8:36pm

from what we can see, the crackling is caused by a very specific combination of parameters within both patches (eventually among others). the computer/USB/VC configuration has nothing to do with it.
best, marc


Thanks for the information, it's very interesting!
You seem to mean it's only by luck if not using Virus Control makes a difference. Am I right about this?

let's put it like that: the patches in question do crackle when i use the virus stand alone. do you have different findings?
marc


This sounds great and all, however, for me, I only ever get crackles in VC. Same patches that crackle there are totally fine in standalone, in fact, I don't think I have ever heard crackles in standalone mode. VC is a whole other nightmare however.

If you have some fixes in the pipeline to remedy whatever you have found crackle wise, I am all for it.

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Monday, August 22nd 2011, 8:58pm

This sounds great and all, however, for me, I only ever get crackles in VC. Same patches that crackle there are totally fine in standalone, in fact, I don't think I have ever heard crackles in standalone mode. VC is a whole other nightmare however.

If you have some fixes in the pipeline to remedy whatever you have found crackle wise, I am all for it.


do you have other patches (the two mentioned aside) which show the behavior you're describing? maybe we just need more to see the pattern ...
marc
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Tuesday, August 23rd 2011, 12:28am

I also only have crackling with Virus Control. I will try and go through other patches in the factory soundbank to see which are causing crackling.

@Ace17: That's really interesting about the "Chapel" patch because if I'm not mistaken, you are also using a TI1 desktop. While I'm sure you were on top of it, it is worth mentioning that it can be harder to hear the crackling with heavy effects and the filter(s) open.

I don't know if this info will help Access but it seems that the crackling happens before the effects chain. In other words, if you apply a reverb, the crackles will also have reverb.

If this problem can be fixed I will be so stoked! The Virus is by far my favorite sounding digital synthesizer.

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Tuesday, August 23rd 2011, 3:46am

This sounds great and all, however, for me, I only ever get crackles in VC. Same patches that crackle there are totally fine in standalone, in fact, I don't think I have ever heard crackles in standalone mode. VC is a whole other nightmare however.

If you have some fixes in the pipeline to remedy whatever you have found crackle wise, I am all for it.


do you have other patches (the two mentioned aside) which show the behavior you're describing? maybe we just need more to see the pattern ...
marc


I will get you the names of a few tomorrow as I have 3 patches in one project which all crackle in VC but not in standalone. One is a hand made sub patch, the others are slightly tweaked factory default patches.

Thanks for looking into this.

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Tuesday, August 23rd 2011, 11:23am

I don't know if this info will help Access but it seems that the crackling happens before the effects chain. In other words, if you apply a reverb, the crackles will also have reverb.
I've also experienced crackles happening before the effects chain. I'm using full bars of 8th note patterns from Farfisa running just about constantly in a track I'm currently working on, I've added some delay to it & towards the end the track Farfisa let off a couple of crackles which then bounced around the stereo field before dying off.


I've got it on a rough bounce of the track, if you would like me to upload it somewhere so you can hear it to check if it's the same thing let me know.

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Tuesday, August 23rd 2011, 12:17pm

I don't know if this info will help Access but it seems that the crackling happens before the effects chain. In other words, if you apply a reverb, the crackles will also have reverb.
I've also experienced crackles happening before the effects chain. I'm using full bars of 8th note patterns from Farfisa running just about constantly in a track I'm currently working on, I've added some delay to it & towards the end the track Farfisa let off a couple of crackles which then bounced around the stereo field before dying off.


I've got it on a rough bounce of the track, if you would like me to upload it somewhere so you can hear it to check if it's the same thing let me know.


a logic project (with virus control) would help a lot
thanks, marc
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