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Zap13

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 4:43am

Sound Quality of the Virus TI vs. Soft synths

Hello, I am wondering why when I A/B compare the virus beside any of the NI synths like Massive, Reaktor, and FM8, - who do these ones sound so thin compared to the Virus? They do not have that depth to them - after I got my TI, then those other ones just sounded like toys to me.

But there are advocates for NI saying that the NI ones are as good too, but I really think they sound poor and cheesy compared to the Virus TI. Does anyone know why this is the case?

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 5:23am

I'm not a huge fan of Massive or Reaktor - always sounded generally a bit muddy to my ear.
I do love their FM synths, though - and more so when the programmer really knows what he's doing. Check out http://www.youtube.com/user/mvsmsx - usually all parts in the videos are made with multiple FM8 instances

Generally speaking, I think there's two main reasons you find huge differences in the sound quality between the Virus and other synths, especially software:
1: you've become accustomed to its sound being present in an enormous amount of tracks, so that it's what your ear has set as a standard
2: the Virus has been worked on for years by Access and the code is so refined that they have an edge over people that are relatively new; it sounds like it does because they love their product, or at least that's what it sounds like to me. This is true for other hardware manufacturers and I'm pretty sure it's the same for other small software makers, like Lennar Digital (who makes Sylenth1) or even the free synth1 by Ichiro Toda.
Just my 2 cents ofc.

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 8:28am

The quality of the sound from the softsynths all depends on the quality of your soundcard and AD converters used.

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 9:10am

For me it seems that virtual instruments sound bad mostly because the summing is bad. Sound card's DA converter has got nothing to do with it. There are very few who record their material from audio interface outputs to tape or something - that's the only way when DA is important. Otherwise it's all being exported/bounced to a file.

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 9:29am

Zebra 2.5

I have numerous soft synths and the Virus is unmatched for sound quaility. Having said that, there's an advantage of having a dedicated piece of hardware assisting that sound. The only softsyth that comes close to the depth and resonance of the Virus is U-he's Zebra 2.5. Phenomenal synth! Fun too!

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Monday, September 27th 2010, 1:02pm

The quality of the sound from the softsynths all depends on the quality of your soundcard and AD converters used.


Partially true: a synth programmed like shite will sound shite on Apogee. It's the case for many commercial plug-ins.

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Tuesday, September 28th 2010, 3:32am

RE: Zebra 2.5

The only softsyth that comes close to the depth and resonance of the Virus is U-he's Zebra 2.5. Phenomenal synth! Fun too!


Wow,Zebra is amazing indeed.

And actually, I would add Omnisphere to that list too.

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Tuesday, September 28th 2010, 12:57pm

try the POLYKB demo by Xils Lab

warmest soft synth EVER
but be carefull its a greedy little puppy

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Tuesday, September 28th 2010, 2:10pm

Thanks Woodster77 for suggestion
Alaso SOLARIS 5.0 by zargmusic has warm character..
DAW: Cubase 6.5.4 (64 Bit)
OS:Windows 7 (64 Bit) And OSX 10.7.5
Virus TI OS:4.5.3
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Synth : Virus Ti Desktop,Virus Ti Snow,Nord Stage ex88,Roland Mc-909
PC : Core i7 870 ,8.0 GB Ram
Mac : Macbook Pro Mid 2012 ,Core i7 ,8GB Ram